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Throw me a friggin' bone, here. How far back into history does pet keeping go? Ancient Egyptians, perhaps.??? Why not ban brushing your teeth and good dental habits??? Isn't that something that Americans/the infidels (at least one of the infidel nations) has perfected? We don't want people wasting good time on something like that. And heaven forbid that someone cherish one of God's creatures. Is there no simpler love than that of a pet and his/her owner? This from a nation where goat/sheep shagging is not completely out of the realm of possiblities.
Several years ago, I was living in the UAE and asked to chaperone (for extra $$) some groups of kids (mostly under 14) from area Gulf countries who were in the UAE for a football tournament. All we had to do was take the kids to the mall in the evening, keep them quiet in the hotel until 11:00 pm, etc. Anyway, while i had some nice Kuwaiti boys ages 12 and under, there was a group of Saudi boys arriving in (14 and under) and they were late. It was decided that a male presence was necessary for this group in order to command respect. Your typical 14 year olds, I suppose. Anyway, they arrived at about 11:00 that night at the hotel, and all the other students were in their rooms-sharing 4 kids to a room. The principal for the Saudi school was Egyptian (wore Saudi attire) and began the room arrangements. Very quickly he came to know that 4 boys would share a room, and demanded one room for each of them. The hotel said they only enough rooms for them to share 4 in a room. This battle went back and forth, and finally my colleague/friend, Craig, said to the principal, "Look, it's late. We'll never find a hotel for these kids at this hour. Can't they share tonight?" To which the principal replied, "I will not let 4, 14 year old Saudi boys share one room. Do you get my drift?" Craig went for the yellow pages.
KSA got bigger issues to tackle than dogs and cats. The complete and utter separation of male from female has left many of their countrymen and women unable to obtain the necessary social skills for jobs in which they must talk to a member of the opposite sex. I've seen courses offered to teaching this 'skill'. No doubt, the course does not actually involve interaction with the opposite sex. I guess my point is, if you can't leave teenage boys in one room for a night, for fear of them interacting sexually, then you need to reevaluate how you're going about maintaining a religious state. Never mind the slew of inconsistencies between the way KSA rules its people and the teachings of Islam.
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First of all lady, I think you are so full of it, and the Egyptian principal of the saudi school you were refreing to is so full of $hit. Are you you trying to tell me those four kids going to engage in group sex if they were left in that room alone. I think your imagination have gotten the best of you. By the way beastialty is something that was perfected in Europe, and the US, and not in Saudi Arabia. Banning the purchase of pets in Saudi Arabia is completly wrong, and that was suppose to be your topic, instead you resorted to taking cheap shots at Saudi Arabia, what a pity.
I think it might have started as an attempt to direct money spent on pets to humans in need. Pet spending was $34,300,000,000 in 2004. That's enough to end starvation for many people.
The alternative isn't starving animals, but lavish spending on pets while people die of need is just wrong.
I'm a cat-lover personally, being Egyptian and all. Probably I still have a "worship the kitty" spot in my brain, but to live with the thought of how much I spend on the cat, I make sure I spend at least double that on charity.
Think about $34,300,000,000 x 2 in charity.
As for the 4 teens in a room incident, I think that was a bit exaggerated, although there are lots of issues in that area.
I think the Pricipal just wanted to be safe than sorry, after all they are his responsibility.
The stories we hear just wants you to avoid situations where things can go wrong. An this isn't an entirely "Saudi" or middle eastern issue, its world wide. I work with children and adolescents here in North America, and seen how they "experiment" as early as at the age of 12 (if not 10!!) and it happens with boys and girls, now I don't care where you come from or whats your back ground a child at that age shouldn't be engaging in such things at such an early age. Its re inoforced by the society and people who talk about "lets talk about it openly", did that approach show any advantages other than some STD control or preventing early pregnancy..so its an issue everywhere and I would say its getting extremely inappropriate here in North American when little girls are all dressed up and made up like a woman,wearing revealing clothes and exhibiting sexual behavior, what does that say about that society??
I can't see why the pricipal was wrong, or his reaction was out of line.
"I think the Principal just wanted to be safe than sorry, after all they are his responsibility."
Oh, I didn't think he was wrong to be safe. And I don't think this problem is strictly limited to Saudi Arabia, though the other principals from other gulf countries with 14 and under boys were not concerned. This man had spent years in Saudi, and presumably spoke from Experience, not because he an Egyptian with an axe to grind.
"I would say its getting extremely inappropriate here in North American when little girls are all dressed up and made up like a woman,wearing revealing clothes and exhibiting sexual behavior, what does that say about that society??"
I agree-totally inappropriate. There is nothing worse than the objectification of a child. And this is not only a problem in North America. I saw it in Egypt regularly-little girls wearing tiny little skirts, belly tops, etc. I found it quite odd since the mother was usually dressed quite modestly. Not to pick on Egypt, it was pretty common in the UAE, as well; Little girls dressing in skimpy outfits, hair highlighted...their mothers in abaya. Not all of them, of course. I had a little girl in my class, who, at the age of 7, wore a body suit in the pool as opposed to a swimsuit. Mother felt it was more modest.
"I think it might have started as an attempt to direct money spent on pets to humans in need. Pet spending was $34,300,000,000 in 2004."
Well, agreed that everyone could stand spend more on charity for humans, however I believe that article states that the issue was that people parading dogs in the streets were emulating the actions of the infidels, or something to that effect.
And finally, I believe we've hit a nerve with the last 'anonymous' post.
"Are you you trying to tell me those four kids going to engage in group sex if they were left in that room alone. I think your imagination have gotten the best of you." Group sex?
No. What I'm getting at here in the distortion of the faith, which has lead to keeping the two sexes absolutely separate from one another. That separation has lead to unhealthy patterns in social development. Look, I don't think anyone should be like the US, or Europe, or whatever. Go ahead and squash human tendency towards sexual development. It will come out somehow. And, yes, to address someone else's comment, kids do experiment at that age. But a boy choosing to engage in a sexual act with another young boy, not because one is gay, but because he feels a sexual need that's been forced down, is something we see in prisons all the time. Healthy? Adults can do what they want. We're talking about kids.
My friend tutored a 14 year old Emirati boy at his home. During the session, with his cap pulled over his eyes, began to masturbate while she was talking. I'm not suggesting he go out and have sex with girls. I'm not suggesting that the "lets talk about it openly" approach mentioned by the first commenter would work, either. My point is, there are other Muslim nations where boys and girls interact with one another in school and out. These kids aren't children of infidels. They're just normal kids. Realising sexuality, even if they're not acting on it. I don't think the West should serve as a model for how kids should be. I don't think KSA should serve as a model, either.
And beastiality "...perfected in Europe, and the US, and not in Saudi Arabia." Ha! That was funny. Yes, it happens in extremely rural towns, though in the US, I it's not as common as it once was, since the rate of teen sex in those populations has risen dramatically in recent years. Which is better? Having sex with your cow or a girl? Which would be more forbidden? But you're right, Saudi must not have 'perfected' beastiality. Does that mean it doesn't happen? Sex with animals was more common (within Europe and rural N. America) in the past within isolated communities in which a young man or woman might not see anyone outside their family for extended periods of time. Sex wasn't to be had. Sex wasn't to be discussed. Stop looking at your sister that way. Leave the dog alone. As for the US and Europe, why shag sheep when members of the infidel nations can shag members of the opposite sex?
"Banning the purchase of pets in Saudi Arabia is completly wrong, and that was suppose to be your topic, instead you resorted to taking cheap shots at Saudi Arabia, what a pity. "
The purpose of my topic is whatever the hell I want it to be. I was getting at the distortion of Islam by KSA, in the form of banning everything from pet ownership to the day-to-day interaction of men and women.
"First of all lady, I think you are so full of it, and the Egyptian principal of the saudi school you were refreing to is so full of $hit."
When someone posts a hostile and uneducated comment, without leaving their name, or better yet, their blog link, I suspect there's something to hide. Perhaps someting in your own youth that made you uncomfortable. What nerve did I hit on? Did a teenage friend of yours suggest an act that you were uncomfortable with? Did you engage in one?
“perhaps someting in your own youth that made you uncomfortable”, actually what makes me uncomfortable are people like you who come to the region, get compensated very well, they pretend to like the people, and the culture, and then as soon as they go home, they open a blog page and take cheap shots at us. And once again your imagination is getting the best of you, your insinuation is way off the mark Madam.
"actually what makes me uncomfortable are people like you who come to the region, get compensated very well, they pretend to like the people, and the culture, and then as soon as they go home, they open a blog page and take cheap shots at us."
Get compensated well??? You gotta be kidding me. That's a myth that applies to a select group of expats, but certainly not all of us. And what cheap shots would you be referring to? Take a look at my blog. Take a look at comments I make on other blogs. No one leaves any country and/or region without taking issue with something. It's called reality. People like me, the ones who didn't get compensated very well, stay for as long as they do because they like it. All of it?? No. Are we entitled to our opinions based on experiences? Obviously. That's what the blog is for. Cheap shots? I don't think so. Heaven forbid anyone imply that KSA or any other country is not what it seems. I'm entitled to my opinions, good or bad, on the region. If you're that offended, move on out.
Saying all of that, I have yet to find anything credible in your commentary, as you provide no insight, no personal experience (not even 2nd hand experience, for that matter), no facts, and no identity. But thank you for not using 'lady' again, and opting for 'madame'.
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